Does anyone know why this creationist class at natural history museum doesn't qualify as child abuse?It does make it clear to me why teens seem to have rebellion coded into their genes. It's a survival instinct that evolved over millions of years to help us throw off the views of dumb-ass parents like these home-schooling knuckle-draggers.
I'm also a bit confused as to why the museum allows this. They say they don't want to make them feel persecuted but what about the other patrons? If this was an art museum and somebody regularly brought through a group of kids while loudly proclaiming that every single piece of art hanging on the walls was terrible I don't think they'd permit that for very long.
We need to stop coddling stupidity for pete's sakes.
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Wow - "BC = Biblically Correct", that's funny. It astonishes me that some people who profess to follow the bible have absolutely no capacity to read it properly. It's funny that they are applying a modern and rationalistic perspective to a creation narrative based on oral tradition written down 1000's years a go. What a lack of imagination.
Stunning in it stupidity
And Westcoast Walker… exactly
The best thing about it is the museum curator grew up like these kids. He knows, like you do, that they'll rebel.
The ones who don't will be eaten by my kids.
It's called survival of the fittest. Since they don't believe in Darwin they'll never see it coming.
Right or wrong, this is America where you can openly express your views. You wouldn't want it any other way.
Frankly, I've heard a lot worse in public places.
If we stop coddling stupidity, we won't have anything to watch on television!
(Ex-Christian (fundy) turned-evolutionary-zoologist-due-to-my-decietful-lying-creation-science-biology-teachers here.)
Ah yes, reminds me of the salad years of my Jebuzz. A time when I told myself that people laughing at me, or pointing at me and whispering, were doing that because believers will be persecuted for their beliefs in the Flying-Undead-God-we-like-to-eat-on-Sundays. It couldn't be because we believed in really fucked-up shit, could it?
I, for one, would like to start a Bible museum that sticks to the facts. Just the facts. Snakes, burning bushes, and donkeys that talk. Riding a real chariot on fire into heaven (bring the sunscreen and LOTS of this). Or maybe have bears attack and kill any kids that make fun of old bald guys (assuming you have any left that escaped the stoning they deserved).
If that seems a bit harsh, maybe you could get the whale to swallow them and get your well deserved three day break from the bastards.
I'm guessing some of the crowd favorites would either being able to dash the heads of heathen babies against the rocks, or stoning women who've been raped but didn't cry out loud enough to suit the elders. Fundies love their revenge fantasies. Especially if it involves women and children.
Oh, and you wouldn't have to make it handicapped friendly. In fact you could model the building after the tabernacle and keep out the gimps on religious grounds.
My personal suggestion would be to generate a wall titled "Foreskins of Our Fathers: The Genealogy of Jesus" including replicas of the prepuces. ('Cause God had a MAJOR fetish with cutting tally-wackers)
Any other suggestions?
As you know, I also posted on this topic.
I was thinking about this when I was out and about today and I saw your comment on my blog on my blackberry. (how much of an a**hole does that make me sound like? don't answer that!)
Anyway, I too was wondering how the museum allowed them to spout this crap when there?
I mean, to each their own, but this being pushed so hard makes me really angry and upset.
WW-
That's a pretty good way to sum it up. I also like the fact that they accuse evolutionists of circular reasoning. Puhleeze.
Jess-
The ones who don't will be eaten by my kids.
HA! Nice turn of phrase. Sounds like you have pretty good kids.
Blog drifter-
Right or wrong, this is America where you can openly express your views. You wouldn't want it any other way.
I don't believe museums are public places. In most cases they are run by private foundations. They have no 1st Amendment rights there.
What's more I would say it's specifically counter to the educational mission of the museum and probably annoying as hell to other patrons. Let them go to the Creation museum if they want to see people riding dinosaurs.
zaius-
There will always be American Idol. Always.
spirula-
Thanks for the pretty substantive reply.
I, for one, would like to start a Bible museum that sticks to the facts. Just the facts. Snakes, burning bushes, and donkeys that talk. Riding a real chariot on fire into heaven (bring the sunscreen and LOTS of this). Or maybe have bears attack and kill any kids that make fun of old bald guys (assuming you have any left that escaped the stoning they deserved).
This is an absolutely fantastic idea. I'll be spending a lot of time in the Sodom Gommorah section myself.
I've never come across that biblical phrase you linked and I confess I've read the bible a couple of times so that's more than embarrassing. Of course we need to take the idea that God didn't create the handicapped literally. / snark.
However the foreskins of our fathers exhibit is already up at the local museum of science and industry so you can't steal that idea. We're very progressive here.
Finally don't forget that no seafood of any kind will be sold at the snack bar.
fran-
The blackberry comment doesn't make you look bad. It makes you look cool and important. :)
I agree that the museum shouldn't allow it, or should somehow provide a guide to correct each asinine comment coming out of those two clowns mouths.
A guide would be an excellent idea. Man, how come I never run into creationist weirdos when I take my kids to the natural history museum!
Cool and important? Oh dear, I do look like an asshole.
Off to the museum to do my docent work... shouting out scientific fact when some nutjob says that dinosaurs played with the baby jeebus.
(and you know i love me some baby jeebus.)
randal-
Maybe it depends on where you live?
fran-
I have a buddy from Mexico with a pretty thick accent and he was explaining the New Orleans King Cake to me one time and how it was lucky to get the "baby cheeses."
I was pretty confused. "You mean they only have cheese in one part of the cake?"
So that's a running joke in my family as to how we refer to the baby jeebus as "baby cheeses."
Has anyone else heard of a flintstonian-like natural museum in America where some religious christian wackos/idiots just like these guys are accepting that dinosaurs existed, but because the bible says that the earth is only about 6000 years old, that they lived along side man?
Where they have anamatronic cavemen and pet-dinosaurs living in peace and harmony?
I'm not kidding, I saw this on the news a while back.
I can't believe people keep telling me to be optimistic when such idiocy exists in the world.
Does that mean I get to walk into churches and say, "Oooh like Santa and the Easter Bunny and magical stardust" every time the clergy refers to miracles in the Bible?
Does that mean Nazis get to walk in to synagogues shouting "Got mit uns" whenever they want to?
If those things did happen, I doubt the "news" reporters would be so even-handed in their reporting.
smoke-
Yes, the Creationist museum would be more appropriate for these folks. Might as well take the fantasy all the way...
don-
Great points. I do think the news reporter was a bit of a smart-alec but the bottom line is even though I believe in free speech it IS the equivalent of fire in a crowded theater and it's not a public space.
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